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Terrydu: Don't bother creating a Great Wall.

2020-12-25T18:04:30Z

Don't bother creating a Great Wall.

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	*Also create sports teams to get the Greeks to settle and not mutiny.		*Also create sports teams to get the Greeks to settle and not mutiny.
	**Sports team are in per-city, which builds a sense of ownership.		**Sports team are in per-city, which builds a sense of ownership.
	* After Seleucid has been repelled, consider a ~~Great Wall~~ and other ~~massive defenses~~ to protect against the nomads that will arrive later.		* After Seleucid has been repelled, consider a line of outposts and other defense projects to protect against the nomads that will arrive later.
	*Likewise, at that time pivot to Learning and Technology.		*Likewise, at that time pivot to Learning and Technology.
	** Teach writing and arithmetic, up to teaching how to calculate interest.		** Teach writing and arithmetic, up to teaching how to calculate interest.

Terrydu: Added a bit more info about Afghan Pine, which looks really useful!

2020-12-25T18:02:42Z

Added a bit more info about Afghan Pine, which looks really useful!

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	***But we can perhaps plant anew every year, collecting seeds from harvest for next year's re-planting.		***But we can perhaps plant anew every year, collecting seeds from harvest for next year's re-planting.
	*See about transplanting some deep-rooted, drought-tolerant, and flood-tolerant trees to some non-agricultural areas, for firewood and so on. Recall that Bactria only gets about 176 mm of rain per year on average.		*See about transplanting some deep-rooted, drought-tolerant, and flood-tolerant trees to some non-agricultural areas, for firewood and so on. Recall that Bactria only gets about 176 mm of rain per year on average.
	**[[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Afghan Pine]], or [[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Eldar Pine]], is very drought-, heat-, and cold-resistant and is native to modern-day Afghanistan.		**[[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Afghan Pine]], or [[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Eldar Pine]], is very drought-, heat-, and cold-resistant and is native to modern-day Afghanistan. Used today for timber, firewood, and as part of creating honey.
	**[[wikipedia:Cedrus_deodara\|Deodar Cedar]], aka Himalayan cedar, grows East of Bactria and can survive cold winters.		**[[wikipedia:Cedrus_deodara\|Deodar Cedar]], aka Himalayan cedar, grows East of Bactria and can survive cold winters.
	**[[wikipedia:Betula_utilis\|Himalayan birch]] is native to the Himalayas and can grow at quite high elevations. Its bark was used as paper, and its wood for many practical purposes. Might require warmer temperatures though.		**[[wikipedia:Betula_utilis\|Himalayan birch]] is native to the Himalayas and can grow at quite high elevations. Its bark was used as paper, and its wood for many practical purposes. Might require warmer temperatures though.

Terrydu: Added that Bactria only gets about 176 mm of rain per year.

2020-12-25T17:55:09Z

Added that Bactria only gets about 176 mm of rain per year.

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	***Not much hope for this. It's an aquatic plant, and doesn't tolerate frost.		***Not much hope for this. It's an aquatic plant, and doesn't tolerate frost.
	***But we can perhaps plant anew every year, collecting seeds from harvest for next year's re-planting.		***But we can perhaps plant anew every year, collecting seeds from harvest for next year's re-planting.
	*See about transplanting some deep-rooted, drought-tolerant, and flood-tolerant trees to some non-agricultural areas, for firewood and so on.		*See about transplanting some deep-rooted, drought-tolerant, and flood-tolerant trees to some non-agricultural areas, for firewood and so on. Recall that Bactria only gets about 176 mm of rain per year on average.
	**[[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Afghan Pine]], or [[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Eldar Pine]], is very drought-, heat-, and cold-resistant and is native to modern-day Afghanistan.		**[[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Afghan Pine]], or [[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Eldar Pine]], is very drought-, heat-, and cold-resistant and is native to modern-day Afghanistan.
	**[[wikipedia:Cedrus_deodara\|Deodar Cedar]], aka Himalayan cedar, grows East of Bactria and can survive cold winters.		**[[wikipedia:Cedrus_deodara\|Deodar Cedar]], aka Himalayan cedar, grows East of Bactria and can survive cold winters.

Terrydu at 17:32, 25 December 2020

2020-12-25T17:32:30Z

Terrydu: Added bold

2020-12-25T17:28:45Z

Added bold

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	{{Greco-Bactria}}		{{Greco-Bactria}}
	~~Work-in-progress~~		Quick notes to organize later:

	* Bring lots of Homing Pigeons with me from Greece. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homing_pigeon		* Bring lots of Homing Pigeons with me from Greece. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homing_pigeon
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	*I'm left behind, with 13k stationed troops, to manage day-to-day affairs.		*I'm left behind, with 13k stationed troops, to manage day-to-day affairs.

	Personal		'''Personal'''
	*Spend 1-3 hours every day training with the troops. Reason: Need to build rapport with the troops.		*Spend 1-3 hours every day training with the troops. Reason: Need to build rapport with the troops.
	**Garrisoned troops, but potentially not mercenaries, would spend 3 hours every morning training in hard physical exertion. ''//TODO: Provide source//''		**Garrisoned troops, but potentially not mercenaries, would spend 3 hours every morning training in hard physical exertion. ''//TODO: Provide source//''

	Economy		'''Economy'''
	*Issue an order to expand on the mining of Lapis Lazuli in the mountains. Reason: Wealth to fund efforts		*Issue an order to expand on the mining of Lapis Lazuli in the mountains. Reason: Wealth to fund efforts
	**Nationalize the mines, but keep the same people in charge.		**Nationalize the mines, but keep the same people in charge.
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	*Build more (or better) [[wikipedia:Caravanserai\|caravanserai]] as well, in anticipation of more traffic. Reason: Encourage traders to pass through Bactra		*Build more (or better) [[wikipedia:Caravanserai\|caravanserai]] as well, in anticipation of more traffic. Reason: Encourage traders to pass through Bactra

	Agriculture		'''Agriculture'''
	*Experiment with planting Olive seeds and Papyrus seeds in different conditions. Bactria is dry, floods, and can reach extreme low temperatures of -20 C.		*Experiment with planting Olive seeds and Papyrus seeds in different conditions. Bactria is dry, floods, and can reach extreme low temperatures of -20 C.
	**Need to confirm that they can grow in this climate.		**Need to confirm that they can grow in this climate.
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	***[[wikipedia:Honey_locust\|Gleditsia triocanthus \| Honey locust]] (150 mm!) - maybe not: native to USA and lots of problems.		***[[wikipedia:Honey_locust\|Gleditsia triocanthus \| Honey locust]] (150 mm!) - maybe not: native to USA and lots of problems.

	Military		'''Military'''
	*Start a horse breeding program to create stronger warhorses. Reason: Needed for [[wikipedia:Cataphract\|Cataphracts]] later.		*Start a horse breeding program to create stronger warhorses. Reason: Needed for [[wikipedia:Cataphract\|Cataphracts]] later.
	**We'll be fighting other Hellenistic armies later, and we'll need both heavier cavalry and longer phalanxes.		**We'll be fighting other Hellenistic armies later, and we'll need both heavier cavalry and longer phalanxes.
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	**Equip these Macedonian Phalanxes with slightly longer spears, since they'll be fighting other phalanxes.		**Equip these Macedonian Phalanxes with slightly longer spears, since they'll be fighting other phalanxes.

	Building		'''Building'''
	*Establish the Ministry of Water Use		*Establish the Ministry of Water Use
	**Start building hidden qanats (underground water supply tunnels) from the hills (or the southern river?) to the capital city of Bactra. Reason: Defense, better source of water, and keep Greeks happy		**Start building hidden qanats (underground water supply tunnels) from the hills (or the southern river?) to the capital city of Bactra. Reason: Defense, better source of water, and keep Greeks happy
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	**All of these use a chimney or flue of some sort, and hence can serve as a way for the engineers/architects to develop and discover the principles of a chimney (narrow heated flue which pulls up smoke).		**All of these use a chimney or flue of some sort, and hence can serve as a way for the engineers/architects to develop and discover the principles of a chimney (narrow heated flue which pulls up smoke).

	Political		'''Political'''
	*Start learning the [[wikipedia:Bactrian_language\|Bactrian language]]. Reason: Need to build empathy and community with the locals		*Start learning the [[wikipedia:Bactrian_language\|Bactrian language]]. Reason: Need to build empathy and community with the locals
	*Have my scribe also learn the Bactrian language, and have him use the Greek script to create a written version of it. Reason: We'll need a way to communicate with the locals		*Have my scribe also learn the Bactrian language, and have him use the Greek script to create a written version of it. Reason: We'll need a way to communicate with the locals
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	**I also need to understand who the local movers and shakers are.		**I also need to understand who the local movers and shakers are.

	Education		'''Education'''
	*Make sure city kids go to school at age of 6, like in Greece, if that isn't already the case. Reason: Need an educated populace and keep Greeks happy		*Make sure city kids go to school at age of 6, like in Greece, if that isn't already the case. Reason: Need an educated populace and keep Greeks happy
	*Promote the views of Aristotle (who was a mentor to Alexander) and in particular his thoughts on the [[wikipedia:Four_causes\|four causes]]. Reason: Need the correct basis for scientific discovery.		*Promote the views of Aristotle (who was a mentor to Alexander) and in particular his thoughts on the [[wikipedia:Four_causes\|four causes]]. Reason: Need the correct basis for scientific discovery.
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	**His purpose is to teach the future medical professionals and also to advance the science of medicine.		**His purpose is to teach the future medical professionals and also to advance the science of medicine.

	Miscellaneous		'''Miscellaneous'''
	*Put in place a system similar to the [[wikipedia:Mail#Persia\|Persian mail system]], or expand on it. Reason: Intelligence gathering and communication system		*Put in place a system similar to the [[wikipedia:Mail#Persia\|Persian mail system]], or expand on it. Reason: Intelligence gathering and communication system
	*Begin a census of all citizens in the towns, cities, and farmers. Reason: ???		*Begin a census of all citizens in the towns, cities, and farmers. Reason: ???
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	By this point I should be fluent in the Bactrian language.		By this point I should be fluent in the Bactrian language.

	Political		'''Political'''
	* In addition to a tour of the cities and towns, do a tour of all the pacified pastoral nomad tribes. Reason: Need to forge alliances and loyalty, and help pacify the insurgents to the South in the Hindu Kush mountains		* In addition to a tour of the cities and towns, do a tour of all the pacified pastoral nomad tribes. Reason: Need to forge alliances and loyalty, and help pacify the insurgents to the South in the Hindu Kush mountains
	**Bring gifts to them, especially things they cannot craft or easily trade for, and teach them different farming or other knowledge. Reason: Show benefits of alliance.		**Bring gifts to them, especially things they cannot craft or easily trade for, and teach them different farming or other knowledge. Reason: Show benefits of alliance.
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	**Count tents (in order to establish a rough census). Reason: Need to know how many men can be called upon.		**Count tents (in order to establish a rough census). Reason: Need to know how many men can be called upon.

	Education		'''Education'''
	*Establish the Ministry of Dentistry. Reason: For myself (and citizens)		*Establish the Ministry of Dentistry. Reason: For myself (and citizens)
	**In particular don't lose knowledge of teeth extraction (for wisdom teeth)		**In particular don't lose knowledge of teeth extraction (for wisdom teeth)
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	** Question: Should it be a sub-ministry of the Ministry of Health?		** Question: Should it be a sub-ministry of the Ministry of Health?

	Miscellaneous		'''Miscellaneous'''
	*Sponsor horse archery competitions. Reason: Encourage horse archery and build community.		*Sponsor horse archery competitions. Reason: Encourage horse archery and build community.
	*In the cliffside at Lat 36.546 Long 66.964 (see https://www.arcgis.com/) dig out a large opening that will hold ice (for me).		*In the cliffside at Lat 36.546 Long 66.964 (see https://www.arcgis.com/) dig out a large opening that will hold ice (for me).

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2020-12-25T17:27:46Z

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2020-12-25T17:21:48Z

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Terrydu: Added wiki link, and some more info about Homing Pigeons

2020-12-04T15:50:28Z

Added wiki link, and some more info about Homing Pigeons

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	* Bring lots of Homing Pigeons with me from Greece.		* Bring lots of Homing Pigeons with me from Greece. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homing_pigeon
	** Roughly 95% reliable, used all the way to WWII, their usage dates back to ~~Southern Iraq~~ in ~~2000 BC~~ as well as ~~Egypt~~.		** Roughly 95% reliable, used all the way to WWII, their usage dates back to 3000 BC in Egypt as well as 2000 BC in Southern Iraq.
	** The outcome of the Olympic games (around 776 BC) was sent by homing pigeon.		** The outcome of the Olympic games (around 776 BC) was sent by homing pigeon.
	** ~~Need to figure out how to handle the many Golden Eagles and other raptors in the~~ region.		** Genghis Khan, ruling over this very mountainous region, would later use homing pigeons.

Terrydu at 15:40, 4 December 2020

2020-12-04T15:40:15Z

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	* Bring lots of Homing Pigeons with me from Greece.		* Bring lots of Homing Pigeons with me from Greece.
	* Roughly 95% reliable, used all the way to WWII, their usage dates back to Egypt ~~and Greece~~.		** Roughly 95% reliable, used all the way to WWII, their usage dates back to Southern Iraq in 2000 BC as well as Egypt.
	* The outcome of the Olympic games was sent by homing pigeon.		** The outcome of the Olympic games (around 776 BC) was sent by homing pigeon.
	* Need to figure out how to handle the many Golden Eagles and other raptors in the region.		** Need to figure out how to handle the many Golden Eagles and other raptors in the region.

Terrydu: Bring Homing Pigeons

2020-12-04T15:33:59Z

Bring Homing Pigeons

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* Bring lots of Homing Pigeons with me from Greece.
* Roughly 95% reliable, used all the way to WWII, their usage dates back to Egypt and Greece.
* The outcome of the Olympic games was sent by homing pigeon.
* Need to figure out how to handle the many Golden Eagles and other raptors in the region.

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	** Dry out seeds (lay out in sun) before packing them in air-tight containers. Add some dry charcoal as well. Otherwise mold develops.		** Dry out seeds (lay out in sun) before packing them in air-tight containers. Add some dry charcoal as well. Otherwise mold develops.
	*Acquire lots of Papyrus seeds as we pass through Egypt, so that we can plant them later for use in writing.		*Acquire lots of Papyrus seeds as we pass through Egypt, so that we can plant them later for use in writing.
			**But see below about how this might be a lost cause.
	*Pick up a hand drill with roller bearings as we pass through Egypt (for later technology advances).		*Pick up a hand drill with roller bearings as we pass through Egypt (for later technology advances).
	*Pick up recipe for soap in either Egypt or Babylon, for practical medical purposes.		*Pick up recipe for soap in either Egypt or Babylon, for practical medical purposes.
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	***Olive trees are drought-, disease-, and fire-tolerant. But they do die in temperatures below -10 C.		***Olive trees are drought-, disease-, and fire-tolerant. But they do die in temperatures below -10 C.
	***They can regenerate from cold damage though.		***They can regenerate from cold damage though.
	***They also don't take well to long-continued rains (~~could be a problem in~~ Bactria's rainy season...).		***They also don't take well to long-continued rains (but even Bactria's "rainy" season isn't that rainy...).
	**[[wikipedia:Cyperus_papyrus\|Papyrus]]		**[[wikipedia:Cyperus_papyrus\|Papyrus]]
	***Not much hope for this. It's an aquatic plant, and doesn't tolerate frost.		***Not much hope for this. It's an aquatic plant, and doesn't tolerate frost.
			***But we can perhaps plant anew every year, collecting seeds from harvest for next year's re-planting.
	*See about transplanting some deep-rooted, drought-tolerant, and flood-tolerant trees to some non-agricultural areas, for firewood and so on.		*See about transplanting some deep-rooted, drought-tolerant, and flood-tolerant trees to some non-agricultural areas, for firewood and so on.
	**[[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Afghan Pine]], or [[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Eldar Pine]], is very drought-, heat-, and cold-resistant and is native to modern-day Afghanistan.		**[[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Afghan Pine]], or [[wikipedia:Pinus_brutia\|Eldar Pine]], is very drought-, heat-, and cold-resistant and is native to modern-day Afghanistan.